Hitchens: no debate on creationism

I love Hitchens’ interjection here:

Excuse me, did you say autonomous centers of created life?

Hitchens goes on, in response to the question, “What does he think grounds the values of human dignity, respect, human value and so on if not the kind of theological foundation that I suggested?”

First, I think a fairly unsentimental realism which would consist of the minimum of a recognition that we are not created, That we are evolved and that we are, in fact, identifiable members of a primate species with kinship with other animals. Some people don’t like to believe this or think it would be unpleasant if it was true, but it just is. So, we may as well deal with that. I am generally tolerant. I love to teach arguments. I like to take part in arguments, but in this case, there is no argument (of) creationism versus evolution. It’s over. It’s been over since the debate of the National History Museum in this university in the mid-19th century.