I found this post interesting because I too was once part of a flock under a Pastor Bob. Different last name, I presume. In any case, I doubt many pastors, like this one, would describe this person as having a “healthy” spiritual journey since he confessed to being a nonbeliever, but he at least seems to understand that, for many people, the world is not just painted in black and white. People do embark on spiritual journeys, even if it leads them ultimately to materialism:

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